What we've learned about reaching Young Adults (Part 3)

Mark Broadbent

Keep your eye on effective leaders and churches.

Although it is valuable to read books and blogs about post-modernism, generation y and the emerging church, I still think I learn far more by watching what effective young adult churches are doing.

HERE ARE SOME CHURCHES WORTH WATCHING...

www.lifechurch.tv
> Innovation
> Technology
> Simplicity

www.buckheadchurch.org
> Ministering to Singles
> Simplicity
> Worship Music
> Communicating the Gospel Clearly

www.marshillchurch.org
> Communicating Gospel Clearly
> Reaching Men
> Technology

www.fellowshipchurch.com
> Creative Ways to Communicate

HERE ARE SOME PODCASTS WORTH LISTENING TO...

> Andy Stanley
> Mark Driscoll
> Kyle Idleman
> Tim Lucas

> John Burke
> Erwin McManus

A FEW OTHER THOUGHTS...
> Don't just blindly copy what others are doing. Not because we need to be original or different, but because we need to figure out the best way to reach the people God has called us to reach.  

> Keep in mind that most of these churches are ministering to thousands of  people. You need to figure out what you can do in your context. You also need to figure out what is needed in your context.

> Some would also recommend Hillsong. I don't tend to watch them too  much because Hillsong doesn't really suit our seeker-sensitive style. There is a lot of church culture in what they do. We do however sing Hillsong United songs, and go to their conference. I think that many young adult ministries could learn heaps from Hillsong.

> Some also recommend Rob Bell. I really really like Rob Bell. He seems like a nice guy. I like his approach to communication. But I wonder if his target is people who've grown up in the U.S. church but have not really connected with it. I find there is a fair bit of assumed information, and I wonder how helpful he is for people who don't understand the gospel (?) 

> Mark Driscoll can be offensive to some. He is excellent at reaching men, but many women would be quite insensitive. Driscoll is also somewhat authoritarian and can be very narrow. He is excellent on the gospel though. 

Previous Posts...
Part 1: You need a critical mass of about 50 people.
Part 2: Don't assume they understand the gospel

Rob Bell

That is probably a pretty fair take on Bell. Having seen quite a few of his Nooma series of dvds, they can be really thought-provoking and challenging for young people who have already been Christians for a long time or are steeped in the worldly values that have infiltrated the church in the West.

But although his social justice challenges and anti-'religiousness' are brilliant, I don't know about his views about Jesus and from other things he's written he has a tendency to allow the secular academic establishment to define the parameters of his thinking on Genesis and the origins of everything from humanity to Christianity.

I think he can be best appreciated by Christians with a solid foundation who can allow parts of their thinking to be challenged without shaking or confusing their whole Christian worldview. I think Bell risks inconsistency and undermining the authority of the bible in his ministry by relying too heavily on secular scholarship to interpret the historical framework in which the events of Scripture occur.

He's interesting though and well worth checking out.

Bell

Rob, what you have described concerning Bell, (ie. his reliance on secular scholarship), is one of the roots of Liberal theology. Don't get me wrong I don't know nearly enough about Rob Bell's theology to call him liberal, all I am saying is that Liberal theology came about in part because the Christian thinkers of the 19th century found their theological and philosophical roots in the prevailing secular culture of the day. They placed secular thinking ie. modernism and secular science ie. evolutionary theory before the Scriptures and consequently headed down the Liberal road.

We have to be very careful how we attempt to understand God, if our starting point is anything but the Scriptures we will end up in trouble. In a culture that is driven by technological change and scientific advancement it would be easy for us to think that because something is new it is therefore better. Historical theology, (ie. surveying what various people have thought about God through history), is important but not to the detriment of Biblical theology. It is far too easy to get caught up in various people's ideas about God and what the latest thinkers are saying, both secular and theological, but at the end of the day our primary goal is to know God, (full relational knowledge not just head knowledge), so we can make Him known, and our God has revealed Himself through Scripture.

Evaluate this point carefully

This is the one part of this series that i question. It's not that i don't think we can learn from these people, but simply that the cost may be more than the benefit. The potential costs i've thought of so far are:

  • being drawn into a 'personality cult' (the Mike Guglielmucci scandal should give us all pause in this respect)
  • not thinking through the issues thoroughly for ourselves and carefully evaluating whether the techniques and programs these people offer us fit our particular situation and culture (especially important when we are using American material)
  • spending our time at the computer instead of with people, or with our ears stuck in the headphones of our MP3 player instead of open to what is going on around us
  • and most of all, not having any new ideas of our own

The potential benefits:

  • tried & tested ideas
  • innovation beyond what we might come up with ourselves

Any other thoughts?

I tend to agree with your concerns

Hi Paul

I tend to agree with your concerns.

This series is just about me sharing what we have found helpful. Given that we have planted 2 churches in 4 yrs, I don't think that this has distrated us from the real game of making disciples.

I do believe though that there are many people commenting on blogs, or even writing their own blogs, or becoming academics who have done nothing but think, and share their opinions.

I also agree that there are people who have just tried to copy others. I can assure you that we have taken what we have from others, and left the stuff that is not helpful in our context.

All this stuff obviously takes wisdom and discernment.

Mark